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Post by RD on Feb 3, 2009 10:57:03 GMT -5
Well, Tags on the first-issue tourney are easily goofed up. Play throughout the year will even that out. But, I do know this. In the future, prizes will not be awarded before the award ceremony. Serious dollars are involved and we want to get it right and fair. Our integrity as a club is at stake. Waiting until the annointed time is also fair. For the folks that have to leave early; Pros can give us an addressed envelope if they have to leave. And Ams can just leave. Yep, I said it. We gave out prizes to 35 ams. Not an easy thing to arrange for a one-day tournament. The award ceremony is part of the tournament, part of the process. The club will do its part (as in --- work our butt off in prep and execution). I will ask players to step up and do their part --- 1. Please pre-register and 2. If you want , stay for the award ceremony. Ron I can see how things can get confusing. we had such a great turn out., i know the bag tags will get straightend out. especially if we get a weekly event going, and once liberty opens, were going to have some cool events i think. i had a great time over the weekend, and besides my brothers score i think he really enjoyed it too. ron, by no means am i upset with the club. i think we all did a great job getting the course ready and the tourn. was awesome. i was just venting a bit because it was my first win and when i got up to the table to get my award, it was gone.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 3, 2009 12:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by Ron Pittman on Feb 3, 2009 13:34:01 GMT -5
[/quote] i was just venting a bit because it was my first win and when i got up to the table to get my award, it was gone. [/quote] Exactly! The folks that stay for the awards, both to receive and to cheer deserve a smooth, accurate, non-confusing scene. Once again, that is only fair. When prizes are requested before the award ceremony it tends to take away from that. Even if the requester has a severe need, or a valid reason for leaving early, or ranks high on the TDBuddyScale the result is often the same -- confusion. At some level it is dang do/dang don't, but at the end of the day I would rather avoid the pre-ceremony payouts in the future. There are other solutions that don't take away from the day. RD, I am so sorry your 1st place award got misplaced in the shuffle. You already know that the one who got confused was me. Sorry again. Ron
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Post by RD on Feb 3, 2009 15:59:27 GMT -5
Ron, its ok, i dont blame anyone. im over it, a win is a win. we learned something from it. its disc golf, i would have had just as much fun no matter where i finished. and you gave me a couple real nice bosses, so no harm done.
by the way michael wants to know what you would like done with all the red and white tee markers we pulled from the tee pad work day?( i think they are still hanging out in the back of his truck)
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Post by Ron Pittman on Feb 4, 2009 16:34:25 GMT -5
Oh, and just so no one misunderstands.
If you picked up a payout before the ceremony -- you did nothing wrong.
Folks asked and I said, "yes".
I just wanted to communicate that in the future I expect we will do it differently.
Ron
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Post by kidmills on Feb 4, 2009 18:01:12 GMT -5
any word on how many $$ the 2ndHFB got ?.....just wanting to know once again great tournament ron
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Post by Ron Pittman on Feb 4, 2009 18:27:29 GMT -5
Richard is doing the final math. Looks like $550ish. Not so bad without any hole sponsors and only a very few donated prizes. (The 2nd Annual CCC will hopefully have a lot of both) BTW, We still paid out at 80%.
We are in a unique spot. We HAVE to have event insurance, so we HAVE to sanction in order to get it. Thankfully the PDGA offers the endowment program for fundraisers. Most PDGA fees are waived as long as you send the bucks to a charity. In return we get sanctioning and all its benifits; decent draw and insurance for the event, and ratings, points, etc for our players. Charity gets the dollars made instead of the club.
Sure, the club passes on the chance to make some dollars, and the players give up a few percent in winnings, but overall ----Win-win-win.
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Post by RD on Feb 5, 2009 11:15:52 GMT -5
Richard is doing the final math. Looks like $550ish............ In return we get sanctioning and all its benifits; decent draw and insurance for the event, and ratings, points, etc for our players. Thats great, i was wanting a piece of that ace fund but its better for charity. ron, did you decide where you want those tee markers? and did you find out from teh pdga whats up with those of us that didn't get ratings??
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Post by Ron Pittman on Feb 5, 2009 15:31:40 GMT -5
The course played (red tees) must have a minimum number of propagators (players with an 800+ rating based on a minimum of 8 rounds).
I got a lesson in how many propagators that would be from Bill B, Alabama coord. But, I didn't pay attention in class. I count only 7 with an 800+ rating. Don't know if enough of them have the 8 rounds each.
Maybe we should wait a day or two and let Bill give us all a lesson. He is a poster on this forum.
Bill?
I will try to find out if there is some other solution.
Ron
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Post by bullington on Feb 5, 2009 17:30:58 GMT -5
I counted only 4 players that played from the reds that met the two qualifications of being a propagator (players with an 800+ rating based on a minimum of 8 rounds). It is easy to see who has 800+ ratings, then click on their name and rating detail in the standings in the PDGA schedule to see how many rounds their rating is based on. www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8527 Duncan Bare, Todd Lewis, Patrick Ransom and Joshua Layhew all meet the requirements of a propagator. So you all have good news and bad news. The bad news is that 5 propagators are required per round to generate unofficial ratings. The good news is that the same layout was used both rounds and only 5 rounds by propagators on a given layout are required for official ratings. These 4 men generated 8 rounds, so when the next rating update comes out and official ratings are released everyone that played the reds will have these rounds rated. Was that explaination clear?
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