Crockett Course is Great! But #12....

[steve]

Is one actually supposed to throw OVER those woods to the basket?!? I have to admit this is a good idea, except those woods are pretty wide (a lot to throw over) and are quite dense on top of that. Can only imagine how many discs have been lost there.

When a few of us played on Saturday we thought you were supposed to go AROUND the woods, which we tried. We figured basket #13 (tall one) was the one to go for, til I ran all the way down to 12 and verified it was the one.

What is up with # 12?

Otherwise LOVED the course. You all have done a fantastic job on it!

[ambroze]

Yeah I agree, what's up with that one? Do we need to make a separate post for anyone who actually pars it to log their name?

Also, is #13 a joke or is there a reason it's so high?

[Ron Pittman]

Hello Gentlemen,
I will try to answer your questions.

#12 has 3 pin placements. It is currently set at the longest (A). 710' par 4. If you get a 3, you have played birdie golf. I've banged the basket a couple of times, but expect one soon. I also expect some more "can't throw 3 in-a-row straight" bogeys.

I expect there will be some who can crank one OVER the woods. As the crow flies, it is only about 325' to the clearing, but the OVER part might be a genuine challenge.

Most of us humans will be going AROUND the woods and be quite pleased with a 4.

It isn't a normal type of hole that we see in this area. More common in other parts of the country. Consider it a cultural awakening.

#13?? It is supposed to be "the target sitting on the mound" hole. Obviously the target has been installed before the mound has been installed.

The dirt won't change the shot required, but will make it look more normal. Got any dirt?

I realize that a greater understanding might not increase your love for these placements. Some of my favorite holes in the south are those that I either respect or just plain hate.

Sorry about getting lost. The official tee signs are still in process. I talked with the city contact today. Soon, we hope.

Thanks,
Ron

[steve]

Sounds good Ron.

I guess I feel better knowing most people go around. Still, I would like to see someone actually clear the woods.

[Ron Pittman]

I cleared it about 2 weeks ago.

But, instead of playing #13 next, for some reason my wife punched me and said to quit snoring and to wipe the drool off my pillow.

Ron

[bullington]

How is the 13 hole playing without the dirt?

I have been thinking about making a raised basket just like that one down here in Athens. Also, I do not rember a locking collar on the pole. How are you locking it?

Every course should have a long hole like 12, we have got to get away from the par 3 mentality.

I cannot wait to get back up there to play. When's the next mini?

[ambroze]

I don’t think that anyone’s really complaining about the distance of the hole but it’s really hard to believe how long it actually is compared to the way the course starts out. I’ve always challenged myself to play all holes as a par 3. If it’s a par 4, I pared it with no problem. But for the beginners, it’s going to be a tough one. All in all a great course!

[Ron Pittman]

From Jim's post --
I don’t think that anyone’s really complaining about the distance of the hole but it’s really hard to believe how long it actually is compared to the way the course starts out.

Wait till you see the new placement for 2. About the same length at 685, par 4 -- and the last 250' is in a 80' wide fairway set at a dogleg 45 degrees left of 2 b. We will carve it out of the woods this winter.

I’ve always challenged myself to play all holes as a par 3. If it’s a par 4, I pared it with no problem.

Bill is right. Par 3 for every hole will become a thing of the past. Take hole 9 as an example. The score predictor for the A pin at 704' for a 1000 rated player shows up as a 3.9--- So we called it a 4.

Pin B at 603' shows up as a 3.6 --- so we called it a 3. Setting a par doesn't have to be guesswork..

But for the beginners, it’s going to be a tough one.

All of our par 4's were tough designs for the red tees. Par for the red tee signs are based on an 850 -875 rating.

Red 9 A is 429' --par 4; Red 9 B is 298' -- par 3
Red 12 A is 667' - par 5; Red 12 B is 497' -- par 4

Playing the reds is a blast. The signs (that are on the way) will have par set for a lower rated player.

All in all a great course!

And it ain't even finished. I walk the course with the city contact this week to work on trahs cans, benches, and signs, and mowing.

Ron

[Ron Pittman]

Bill,
You asked about #13.

The top of the mounting pole is about 44" off the flat ground. I locked it by:
* first sliding in the target pole
* drilling 2 holes about 1 1/2 inches apart all the way thru the mounting pole and the target pole, just under the collar on the locking pole.
* I then slide a second lock thru the new holes, then locked the collar to the 2nd lock.


As far as I know, I didn't get a strong amen from my design cohorts about either Long 12 or High 13. Poor reviews are all on me.

I personally feel that the hole will play NO differently with the dirt as opposed to with out the dirt. But the dirt mound will srrve to make it look more natural.

Thanks,
Ron

[ambiguous]

Finally went for it on 12 and threw over the trees. Made it about 15 ft into the fairway on the other side, just past a red marker pointing to #13. That one throw made the whole round worthwhile. I like how the hole is laid out, nice work.

[Ron Pittman]

LAM Alert!!!

Ron

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