Post by Ron Pittman on Apr 30, 2010 22:53:57 GMT -5
We have been hoping to launch a Thursday Evening Singles Handicap League at Liberty (from May to September), but we don’t expect the official agreement with Franklin Park & Rec until July 1.
So…… in the mean time --- I know several folks that have talked about playing on Thursday’s at Liberty anyway. No entry fee, no prizes ---- just fun. Join in if you can. Liberty at 5:30pm.
When the official league starts, Cameron P. will be our coordinator. Be sure and thank him for his leadership.
Since everyone will ask about a Rain Policy for the League – here it is; Rain showers will not cancel the league, but a heavy line of storms or lighting will. Cameron will send an email to tag holders and post on the forum by 2pm if there is to be a cancelation.
We will use the same policy during May & June for those that want to come on Thursday’s before the league starts in July.
Many thanks to Ron Pittman, Bill Bullington, and Chuck Kennedy for pointing me in the right direction.
Let's get this ball rolling!
Williamson County Disc Golf Club Thursday Night Singles Handicap League Liberty Park Disc Golf Course Thursdays 5:30 pm (will change to 6:00pm mid-June)
Handicap leagues allow players of wide-ranging skills to compete in a fair way. It helps to attract and retain the interest of beginning players when they know that no matter what they normally shoot, if they have what is a pretty good round for them, they have a chance at winning. Perhaps we can inspire some new golfers with our league! If not, we're still going to have some fun. That is rule #1 after all.
This is somewhat long and convoluted. Bear with me. There will be time for discussion. Nothing is set in stone.
Weekly entry fees will be collected and prizes will be awarded beginning Thursday July 1 (we are ok on the 1st, aren't we Ron?). However, I will start recording scores this Thursday May 6. Based on what I've been reading in trying to set this up, and on my own gut feeling, we are each going to have two different averages and two different handicaps - one for the 'A' location and one for the 'B' location. They really are quite different courses in level of difficulty, and (more importantly) it gives us the opportunity for more prizes!...an end of the season 'A' champ, a 'B' champ, and an overall champ. And I don't mind keeping track of it all so that's that.
Even though there is no cash involved yet, I encourage everyone to start coming out now. I think our timing is good; since the baskets have only recently been moved to the 'B' location, we will likely get about a month at each spot before we start playing for prizes in July. So we just may have the opportunity to get at least three rounds at each placement before July and have our averages and handicaps all ready to go. For those who don't yet have three rounds on a given placement by July 1st, no worries! Unfortunately, you can't win any prizes your first week, but you can start winning your second week. After your second round, your two scores will be averaged and the resulting handicap will be applied to your second round's raw score. After that it's always your most recent three rounds.
<aside: Ron, can we request Franklin Parks to give us 6 weeks at each placement from July-September?>
Let's talk prizes! Keep in mind no fees and no prizes until July. After that:
All payouts will be in Club Dollars
There will be an optional $1 CTP pool each week - winner take all
There will be an optional $1 ace pool - pre-established ace pool rules apply
Entry fee for the league is $5 per week. Of this, the club will keep $1 for future projects, insurance, etc. Another $1 will go into the end-of-the-season champion's pool. The other $3 will go into the weekly pool. If we have six players or less in any given week, 1st and 2nd place will split the pool 67/33. If we have more than six playing, 3rd place can win a few bucks too, but maxes out at getting the entry fee back. 1st and 2nd will split the remainder of the pool 67/33. The champion's pool will accumulate all season. At the end of September, the 'A' and 'B' champs will each get 30% and the overall champ will get 40%. You must have at least three rounds at a given basket placement to qualify for the season championship, and at least four rounds total to qualify for the overall championship. Keep in mind, this is a handicap league. All prizes will be awarded based on handicapped scores.
So the weekly prize schedule will be:
# of players...........................1st.........2nd..........3rd
Since there is not a standard par as you travel from one disc golf course to another, a disc golf handicap is based on an arbitrary reference number rather than an actual par. This reference number is subtracted from a player's average, then multiplied by approximately 80% to obtain the handicap. It should be a number which is at the low end of what you would expect anyone to average on that course. With our 20 hole par of 60 at Liberty, we will use 50 as our reference number. This is partly because I do think it works well for our purposes, and partly because someone else has already done all the calculations and made a handy-dandy table with 50 as the reference number. The table actually uses a sliding scale starting at 80.4% and going up to 90%. Players with very high averages would have a tough time ever overcoming the 20% differential and winning a prize. Sliding the handicap scale up to 90% at the high end helps to offset this.
The raw average score will be rounded to the nearest 1/2 stroke.
A player's raw average score for any given week will be the average of three most recent rounds at that basket location, as will the raw average for the 'A' and 'B' champs. The raw average for the overall champ will be the average of all rounds played at both locations.
raw average is 63....63 minus 50 is 13....13 times 80.4% is a handicap of 10.45
This would be subtracted from the raw score for the round to arrive at the adjusted score from which prizes will be awarded.
Holes will be played in barber-pole fashion, shotgun start
Well I had fun last night! Hope everyone else did.
We started off well - as holder of the #1 tag, James led us off with a nice drive. Next, David stepped up and, with the second throw in the history of our little Thursday Night League, put two strokes on us all with an ace!! Congrats again on the great shot David!
With an ace in his pocket, I bet we can all guess who had low score for the round (and who once again holds the #1 tag)...
David Braud...........56 James Cable...........59 Cameron Patrick......68 John Wood.............70 Bryan Weaver.........72
In the coming days, I'll have some additions/clarifications in the initial post above. I'll make them red or something so they stand out. Will also make a new thread to hold the current standings/stats so they don't get lost among discussions here. Stay tuned...
Last Edit: May 7, 2010 12:37:39 GMT -5 by ratskrad
David, Woody, and myself were in attendance for the second week and ended up with 2-round averages, handicaps, and adjusted scores. Scotch was there to record his first official 'B' score (and is the new holder of the #1 tag). James played a few holes but couldn't stay for the whole round.
The adjusted scores would not have changed the order of finish last night, but do show how closely it evens things up. A couple of strokes difference for any of us would have changed things.
Scotch Ralston.........60 David Braud.............63....-7.64......51.86 Cameron Patrick.......65....-13.37....53.13 John Wood..............74....-18.26....53.74
those additions/clarifications are still forthcoming. It's been a crazy week. I'm adding stats threads now - when a few more weeks of scores are in the books there'll be a better spreadsheet something or other to display them, but for now at least the info is there...
that darn 2pm deadline...forecast looked good then!
If there had been a crowd, we would've gotten soaked. However, playing alone I was able to get in a round before the rains came down. You guys are lucky it won't count...I played horribly...would've given me a huge handicap going into next week.
hoping we get better weather next week
Last Edit: May 21, 2010 6:40:56 GMT -5 by ratskrad
It's the last week of casual play and we're at a new basket placement so it's the 'first' week again for everybody...meaning anyone who plays this evening will be going for prizes next week!! Woo-hoo!! Those who don't make it out this evening will be establishing their first round next week and won't yet be elgible for prizes...