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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 9:43:12 GMT -5
Thats too funny, I was thinking about having an ace pot this morning too, and thought the same thing, what if its hit on the 2nd round.
My thoughts are.......if we have an ace pot, of course you win it with an ace.....but, due to the rules the hole MUST be finished as worst shot.
And, I feel that your card mates must decide which shot is worst, not the team throwing it.....that will add to the smack talk and fun of it all.....thoughts?
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Post by becker on Jun 2, 2011 10:55:37 GMT -5
I agree that the team not throwing should decide on the worst drive.
I disagree about aces. They're rare enough that they should count in the record books. You want to avoid worst shot? Ace the hole. Otherwise, shut up.
Big question: You're referring to worst shot only from the drive, right? Otherwise, if someone makes a birdie, both partners would need to. That's just cruel. Once the biscuit is in the basket, the hole is done.
The strategy seems to be getting the best worst score to be on the top of the lower half. Or have both partners play flawlessly from the reds. Or, more accurately, getting the best worst score to be in the top of the lower half. (What? Me redundant?)
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 11:27:12 GMT -5
Yes, the worst DRIVE we should call it, because only the drive will be considered to debate the teams next shot. From there, the hole will be finished out as normal.
about the ace, thats why I think an ace pot is reward enough, one will always know in their heart they got an ace, and some gas money to boot.
But as far as the round rules state, the WORST "drive" must be played out, and remember, its only on round 2. Round 1 is played out best shot all the way through. the 50% split only comes up for round 2, thus teams need to decide if they are gonna shank shots to enable a full on best shot 2nd round, or whatnot.
Either way, there will be 50% of us played a worst shot second round.
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 11:41:02 GMT -5
plus an ace is always possible, but not really likely. lets not worry too much about it. If noone hits an ace all day, we will have a ctp down to hole 3s basket (from and undisclosed location determined by the TD, he he) to decide the winner of the ace pool.
thank you guys for the discussion, any more ideas are always welcome, I will never claim to know everything that will arise, and your comments and ideas will help a smooth outcome.
I hope to make it all as clear as possible at the players meeting
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Post by becker on Jun 2, 2011 14:18:18 GMT -5
Because I love arguing a moot point as much as the next guy...
Amend the rules. "When the disc ends in the basket, write the score down and move to the next hole." You'd still be playing worst drive, with the one exception of aces.
Ace pool paid out to ctp if no aces are hit? And you're talking about the integrity of the rules?
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Post by 41858 on Jun 2, 2011 14:34:59 GMT -5
Mike myrick and i are in.
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 14:41:37 GMT -5
Point taken. I will amend the rule just to dry up the It is tourney standard to have a ctp throw off is no ace is hit during a day. A nice way to give everyone one last shot at some sort of glory Of course, as TD of this little thing, I could say if no aces are hit than we could donate the fund to the club ;D All in good fun Becker, I always love a good debate. I don't expect an ace.....if I am wrong, I'll fry up my ROC and eat it with a side of shoe sole I'll make the ace rule clear at the players meeting. Thanks for everyones input
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 14:45:29 GMT -5
CONFIRMED TEAMS. Ron and Ryan Pittman RD and Keith M Craig B and Doug J Becker and Jeff J Stephen H and Pete C Mike M and Aaron C POSSIBLEs LOOKING FOR PARTNER Bryan Jordan remember, if you don't have a partner, show up anyway, you can pair up prior to the round, we'll "clint" any odd man situation please keep us updated on your intentions to play, we would like to have as solid of a head count as possible going in to make this as smooth as possible, it'll help get you home earlier that afternoon too! Thanks in advance Updated players list, looking like 7 solid teams so far, would like to see 10 teams, a nice even #
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Post by slowroll on Jun 2, 2011 15:12:36 GMT -5
I'm glad I could be the one to complicate the issue RD So here is what I'm hoping happens. 9 teams show up with 4 teams out in front and 3 teams all tied for 5th. Doug and I will be in 6th by one stroke and only us and one other team will play best shot round 2 with the rest of you being hosed by this rule. We will then shoot a 12 down and come back to win by 1 stroke. I love it when a plan comes together ___ <-- my cigar
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 15:32:00 GMT -5
===='' <---- MY CIGAR!
No complications, Im glad were getting it all worked out. We can't please everyone and if we dont have input, we dont know what to fix.
Btw, your little plan.....I dont think its gonna work, cause see, me and Keith, were gonna throw left handed on half the holes round one, to ensure best shot round 2....then shoot a 14!!! down to tie you and doug. then were gonna have a throw off that lasts another 16 holes, which Im gonna ACE.....thus the amended rule will be flipped to our victory......Keith, your welcome!
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Post by 41858 on Jun 2, 2011 15:45:15 GMT -5
jordan will not be able to make it to the doubles
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Post by Ron Pittman on Jun 2, 2011 16:25:10 GMT -5
Best shot, worse shot??? RD, you make the call, but here are my thoughts:
Worse shot is typically played for every throw. All the way to the target. And yes, the opposing team on the card makes the call as to which lie is worse.
For example --- If player A makes their 3rd shot into the target (the putt) AND player B does not ALSO make their 3rd shot into the target, then the team is now putting for a 4 -- and BOTH have to make it.
Worse shot has the potential to add about a stroke to each hole. Less than that for the better players, worse than that for inconsistent players/ mixed skill teams.
So...... What about a weighted average? For the second round ---- for every stroke above the median score, the team has to play 2 complete holes in the worse shot format. Holes chosen by RD or by the team itself. Just offering the thought.
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Post by RD on Jun 2, 2011 17:39:38 GMT -5
Were gonna need another players meeting after lunch I do like that idea, so long as were all on the same page and understand it going in. If I understand correctly, say we have 10 teams.... scores of 50,50, 52, 53, 54, 56, 60, 64, 65, 68......the median is 57, so the 50's would play 14 holes of worse shot, the 52 - 10, the 53 - 8 and so on?? I like that it may make it easier to do the split field also, rather than just saying 50/50 the median score can decide who then has to be "hosed" (thanks slow) by the rule ;D I would let the team being "hosed" decide which holes they want to play worse shot on also....pre determined b4 the round begins
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Post by MattF on Jun 2, 2011 18:52:20 GMT -5
Ron did you mean to suggest the median score or the mean score? The median is the middle of the sample, which would be 55. The mean, or average however, is 57.
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Post by popehodge on Jun 2, 2011 19:36:48 GMT -5
Gabe H and Carlos M are in.
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